imtohi

Here's those pictures I took of your AK-47. Now if I had a e-mail addy for you I won't have to show your shame in pubic (LOL). So PM me with it, you fool.


http://s1011.photobucket.com/albums/af231/imtohi/OTIS/

David J

Wow ... maybe I should start riding the trolley and eating soup.
Somebody done good.

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Damn kick me in the nuts.

Otishertz had moldy nugs. Kiss my ass.

Least I don't roll around on my Harley wearing fuzzy slippers and no socks.

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I tell you what, Charlie, I'm going to bomb this thread with those buds and let the people decide. I gave those buds out all over and people are loving them.

Sure you found mold with a microscope. You need the microscope to find any. Those buds were kept wet as long as possible in vacuumed jars. It made them dank but it also made mold possible.

I smoke that bud I gave you all day and love it so I'll buy you 2 soup if 90% of the people who smoke these don't say they are the good stuff.



Bud Bomb

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Smiley Anarchy




This is an open donation of 25 small"smiley anarchy" themed glass jars filled with five grams of the AK-47 in question. These jars will be delivered the Tuesday after next to Big Blue.

Pick up between 12pm Tuesday March 30 and 4pm Wednesday March 31. All patients are welcome first come first serve as always but this bomb is also open to growers because they are more critical.


Here are the bud bomb rules:

Read the entire thing before responding.

1. Before responding make sure you can pick up between 12pm Tuesday and 4pm Wednesday (3/30-3/31) at Big Blue.
2. This thread is the only place you will find information about this donation. Come here for updates and questions. Do not call Big Blue for more information. All the information is here.
3. If you accept this donation and have an outstanding med request OGF asks you please take it down. This donation counts toward your two per month suggested use of OGF for obtaining meds.
4. To get on the list for this open donation type or paste these words, “No soup for you!” somewhere in a reply below.
   
5. I will thank you to indicate you made the list and post the list as it fills.
   
6. Otishertz not responsible for actions of imtohi. Enter at your own risk.
7. Names are taken only from this thread and not by PM. One donation per name. For verification purposes, a screen name is required to get this.
   
8. This donation is for patients and growers.
   
9. Any unclaimed donations go to the volunteers at 4pm Wednesday.

Sunnygrrrl

Wow. Oh lal a! Every year? No, wait; this year. Someone is going to be very happy.

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OK, Nobody has to say, "No soup for you!" unless they want. However, you have to say a key phrase because that is how this works to separate the comments from the requests. The alternate phrase can be "I dunno, maybe they are good. I like pot. o0{)~"

By the way, this all started when I unfortunately gave Charlie a truly moldy bud I pulled out of a ruined jar in my dark kitchen (in the first set of pictures) telling him it was great shit. So I gave him another nug from a different jar that seems fine and said try this one. Well, good thing he likes fuzzy slippers because he keeps kicking me in the nuts.

I'd like to know if there is anything wrong with these buds from others and if the trivial amount of white in the pictures that is present is harmful.

Could a geek please advise if a miniscule amount of mold on a clean indoor grow, undetectable by smell and requiring a microscope to find is bad for people to smoke and worse than the average outdoor in terms of purity.

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I'll bring these buds to the bucket brigade tomorrow to determine their toxicity before releasing into the general population.

David J

I want to get in the middle of this one

In order to help mediate I'd like to be part of the great No soup for you! v.s. I dunno, maybe they are good. I like pot! debate. I'm sure I'll be around BB sometime on Tuesday or Wednesday.



Give me a microscope powerful enough and I can see the Universe.

rick45

My 2 cents, Throw out moldy buds. Yea they may get you high, but is it worth the risk?
If someone is donating moldy meds, someone could gey really sick.

kristi

will be at the bucket brigade to have a look today

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rick45

Toxic they may be to the wrong person.
Think a sec, I can have great stoney buds, but if I use Poisons till the end of my grow, those beutifull buds could be poisonous to the community.

Mold is no good, and donating moldy buds is reckless and dangerous.
You may need to rethink how you cure your meds.
No moldy buds for me thanks, I got enough health problems.

Not jumping in your shit, except about the mold...Peace Rick

5star

Bring the microscope!

At this time of year, we all may be surprised where miniscule amounts are hiding, tis the season.
I have a couple between 1-2ltr size I'm gettin' nervous about & the room is double de-humidified. 50+ degree swings in outdoor ambient really suck

David J

I saw, smelt, tasted no mold on the buds I've had from this source. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a speck since the bud was kind of humid until I let it dry a bit.

I've been smoking marijuana of varying quality for the last 42 or so years and have seen some mold. Anybody that has ever smoked brick weed from anywhere has smoked mold. There was a time when moldy crap weed cost more than not moldy crap weed. (What were we thinking?)

Maybe we should get some sterile agar loaded Petri dishes and learn the dirty little secret about our medicine.

I did that on the air in our apartment and was horrified by what grew. Sent in one of the dishes for analysis and learned that I live in one of the highest mold count areas of the country and if I had allergies I should consider moving to a drier area.


That said, I will be looking closely and being straight up about what I find.

kristi

Since I joined this community year after year I hear reports dissing various growers about the quality of meds or their growing skills. Sometimes the reports are true but many times they are NOT. As a grower myself I am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the grower. I know people who have stopped donating to the community at large after being maligned.

As far as mold goes - there are many kinds of mold and the spores are everywhere all the time. Have you ever smoked outdoor medicine? I have seen samples submitted for the Cup that became moldy after they left the growers hands.

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do or do not, there is no such thing as try
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rick45

Not meaning to say any person cant grow great, and I think the bud Bomb is great.
From the pics it looked mold coated, but they could be deceiving.
I have never met Otishertz or have any knowledge of his growing or of him personaly.
I was just worried about samples going out moldy.
Peace, You guys. Thanks for doing the Bud Bombs, they are great.
Please do more.............
Ok, I'll go do my chores now, Rick

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While we are on the subject is there any data or studies on smoking mold and other impurities on marijuana? How many types of mold are there? What kind of sickness result? Do all types of mold have the same toxicity?

AT told me about hops production and how there are inspections for mold and other things. Commercial grows will probably be subject to at least the same standards. I don't know much about it.

If people say the buds are crap I will throw them in the trash at the bucket brigade. I think they are delicious, I like them, and I have a hard time seeing mold on them. I asked Charlie to look for the mold. I can't help it the soup serpent thought it was funny.

Anyway, we'll settle this soon enough.

rick45

I may be wrong, But I think All geeks will agree, A Moldy bud is a bad bud.
Some may smoke it and have no effect, but someone with a health condition may be harmed by mold.

NOW, YOUR buds are probably fine, But as a grower, I would never donate anything that wasnt 100%.

I am only trying to clarify my opionion, NOTHING personal.

5star

For those with respiratory ailments or that are immuno depressed, any sign should be an issue. Me personally, miniscule amounts are the least of my worries. Much nastier things afoot in a lot of bud.

Drying properly this time of year is the biggest issue.

I'd like to see mine up close & Rick's

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Don't worry one bit. I want to learn.

There is no quality control in the OMMP. I give out samples to multiple people every time before I hand out free meds and ask for criticism because I am much newer than most growers and I do not know everything about pot. Lots of people can verify that i seek approval before letting anything out.

If every small med donation was scoped before release I bet that the number of donations would decline. The Soup Serpent brings up an important issue - Will minimum standards and inspections for MMJ kill small donations and OMMP as we know it?.

The buds were deliberately kept wet as an experiment. It is easy enough to prevent mold, just dry rapidly and settle for a harsher smoke. I have been seeking opinions on these buds for at least a month.

If I am wrong I'll be happy to admit.

Maybe people will say they are fine. Charlie, if people like these AK-47 how about you wear bunny slippers to big blue every day for a week . If they do not I'll wear the slippers.

Whaddya say Soupy?

oregond56

Instead of keeping your bud moist, after curing it, let it dry out completly. Then when you want to smoke it, rehydrate a small quantity, and you are good to go.
Bud isn't suppose to be kept moist for long periods of time,imo.

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DanPDX420

"No soup for you!"

Dirt Devil

Oh you lika da soup????? Well NO soup for U.... But Ill try the soup!!!

StickyfingahZ

"No Soup For you!"

Any Soup left? lol

Nice Eyes Charlie! :thumbsup2:
I have respitory problems and I do get sick every once in awhile, not sure if it is from burning moldy buds or just from burning in general, but it usually just lasts a week and goes away,so I dont really pay attention to it,but I guess I should.
I have Sampled Otis's Herbs several times and have Loved each one! I would say he grows Dank meds.Infact I kept a nug of the snow trax he gave me for a few weeks,lol Was really good and I had to save um for a special occassion,lol

BTW- Love that Pic!!

Crystalpistol

No Soup for you...thank you Otishertz for what you do!

Sweet Dreams

Otis either way your a good grower and nothing coming from you would be anything less..... Thank you for your generosity in the ommp community.. I dont mind trying it out

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rick45

I should really read posts closer before jumping in with both feet
I am still learning, probably allways will be.
Thanks for all you do, Rick

pSteve

When Kristi talks about people being critical of moldy donations, she is referring to me.
I an very sensitive to moldy buds.
I get terrible pneumonia like symptoms.
If the buds are tainted, I will know.

Damp is not the same as Dank.
Damp nugs in a jar, is a perfect recipe for mold.
Never seal damp nugs in a jar.
It doesn't make them 'more dank'.
Only proper curing will do that.

The purpose of curing is to RELEASE moisture, at an even rate.
Curing prevents mold, by removing excess moisture from inside the bud, drawing it out, so it can be dissipated evenly.

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oregond56

Because you are a Grower, you are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a fellow Grower?
How does that fit in with you being a Patient too?
I'm just curious.
But, I'm also curious about what you are saying about outdoor Meds.
Are you saying that all outdoor should be considered moldy?
I have my glasses on, so thats not my problem,lol.
Sorry to ask questions, I'm just trying to understand what you are saying.

oregond56

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From Clone

i see mold!

Eazy-Z

MMM Soup Otis buddy i respect your growing abilities if you don't toss it i would give it a go.....

ThatKat

I'm deathly allergic to mold in all of its' glorious form. I can't even take Pennicilan! I always know I've gotten moldy bud because I get funky red spots on my skin

imtohi

SORRY it's taken so long to get back to ya, as I've been writing this all day and every time I'm about to post something has come up. So I've added to it all day. Well here it is TROLLEY RIDER:

First of all I love the smell of a FIGHT first thing in the morning.

Your are correct sir THE BUDS are all no good, so I say GIVE them all to me RIGHT NOW and I will destroy them all by a ancient fire ceremony that will ensure that it don't happen ever again.

Now let me clear something up HERE. I'm not the science type, but I slept with one once in a Holiday Inn. So having said that this is my take on all I've seen in your buds.

SUGAR and SPICE

In IMVHO. All I see is a wonderful looking bud. I also had my official taster/tester try it and all they had to say was WOW OH WOW THEM'S SOME MIGHTY TASTY BUDS.
That was when they could talk which was a while later.


I say BRING them on. I'll take a look at all that y'all have and even take pictures of it for you. But REMEMBER ALL samples WILL be destroy and only a written report will be returned.


I say it's on like DONKEY KONG. If by any chance you happen to win this, then at least I won't have to buy BUNNY SLIPPERS as I already have mine. So you had better go buy you some as I WILL NOT loan you mine!

THANKS FOR PLAYING ALONG
CHARLIE

Go Long Dave

“No soup for you!”

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Style

Otis is dropping bombs left and right! Rock on!

imtohi

FrogGoddess

all i can say from what i say today at the bucket is that the buds Otis had looked AWESOME!!!!! yes he threw some away that you could see had mold but you know, you win some you lose some....“No soup for you!” ......keep doing what you do!!!

Sequoiacrone

I have spent most of my life living on the coast. From Washington state to So CAL and now on the Oregon Coast. This area is so bad that people have had to move to Arizona for their breathing to improve.
I just googled this and took the first link:

Can mold make my family sick?

Exposure to mold can cause health effects in some people. The most common effects are allergic responses from breathing mold spores. These allergic responses include hay fever or asthma and irritation of the eyes, nose, throat or lungs. We usually cannot say how much mold is too much as our reactions to allergens can vary greatly depending on individual sensitivity. Allergic responses can come from exposure to dead as well as to living mold spores. Therefore, killing mold with bleach and or other disinfectants may not prevent allergic responses.
Less common effects of mold exposure include infections and toxic effects. Serious infections from living molds are relatively rare and occur mainly in people with severely suppressed immune systems. Many types of molds may produce toxins but only under certain growth conditions. Toxic effects have been reported from eating moldy grain, but evidence is weak that breathing mold spores in buildings causes toxic effects.
What are common symptoms of mold exposure?

Allergy and irritation are the most common symptoms of mold exposure. Although symptoms will vary, the most common symptoms seen in people exposed to mold indoors include:

• Nasal and sinus congestion
• Eye irritation, such as itchy, red, watery eyes
• Respiratory problems, such as wheezing and difficulty breathing
• Cough
• Throat irritation
• Skin irritation, such as a rash
• Headache

Who is most at risk for health problems from mold exposure?

Exposure to high amounts of mold is not healthy for anyone, so obvious mold growth in the home should be cleaned up. However, some individuals may be more susceptible to health problems from mold exposure. These include:

• Individuals with current respiratory sensitivities (e.g., allergies, asthma, or emphysema)
• Individuals with a compromised immune system (e.g., HIV/AIDS infection, organ transplant patients, or chemotherapy patients)

Are some molds more harmful than others?

Any extensive indoor mold growth should be treated as a potential health concern and removed as soon as practical no matter what species of mold is present. Identify and correct the source of moisture so that mold will not grow back.
How do I know if I have a mold problem?

A mold problem can usually be seen or smelled. Mold growth may often appear as slightly furry, discolored, or slimy patches that increase in size as they grow. Molds also produce a musty odor that may be the first indication of a problem. The best way to find mold is to examine areas for visible signs of mold growth, water staining, or follow your nose to the source of the odor. If you can see or smell mold, you can assume you have a mold problem. Other clues include excess moisture and water damage. It may be necessary to look behind and underneath surfaces, such as carpets, wallpaper, cabinets, and walls.
There are some areas of the home that are always susceptible to mold growth and should be part of routine cleaning to keep them under control. They are seldom the cause of significant health effects. These are:

• The seal on the refrigerator door
• Shower curtains
• Window moldings
• Shower stalls and bathroom tiles
• Surfaces on and around air conditioners

Should I have my home tested for mold?

Sampling can be expensive. The results are also difficult to interpret partially because we have very limited information about what level of mold exposure is associated with health effects. In some cases, knowing the type of mold that is present can be helpful, but for most cases, sampling is unnecessary. Overall, the best practice regardless of the type or amount of mold is to promptly clean up any mold growth in your home and to correct the water problem that caused it.


More from NY State DPT OF HEALTH:


http://www.health.state.ny.us/enviro...s/air/mold.htm

I encourage growers to have dehumidifiers to PREVENT molds in their rooms. It is one of the EASIEST tools we have at our disposal for good growing.
Never jar your medicine when it is wet or damp. SEE DJ SHORT's method for drying....the jar comes for the cure....and that for ME is after it is dry.

Good luck to all the growers out there with this potential problem.

I am not saying Otis has moldy meds....I don't know him nor have I tried his meds. I just know that MOLD has many ways of ruining meds.

Try making butter and not getting all the moisture out of it. Sit in the fridge and come back to a water bubble full OF MOLD. (just another example of good meds gone bad.)

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pierced420chicky

or is it "I dunno, maybe they are good. I like pot. o0{)~", eaither way right on:thumbsup2:

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OK I brought the buds to the Bucket Brigade but no Charlie. That's OK. The largest bud of all of them, which was pretty big, did have mold inside it. Essentially all of the smaller buds were fine. I gave out half of what I had and everyone who got it liked it.

You said,"it's on like DONKEY KONG."

Therefore, soup slurpant, it is bunny slippers for you. Sorry but your baby booties do not count unless you are going to wear them as earrings to compliment the proper bunny slippers that I am picking out for you right now on amazon.

Just have the volunteers at big blue inspect your slippers every day for a week. Don't forget the old school park handshake when you tip them out.



So, since there are no objections I will take the remainder of these community approved buds and give them away with a clear conscience.

Shame is a bitter soup.






The Shit List

1. David J
2. DanPDX420
3. Dirt Devil
4. StickyfingahZ
5. Crystalpistol
6. Sweet Dreams
7. Eazy-Z
8. Go Long Dave
9. SOUP SERPENT
10. FrogGoddess
11. pierced420chicky
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Let me see you try to shift with those slippers!